Plans for jv16PT 2010 after build 981.

leonardo

Year end 2010 approaches rapidly. Seen in this context, my question is:

Are there plans for a 'more or less' final version of jv16 Power Tools 2010, with the currently known open issues fixed?

jv16

To which currently known open issues are you referring to?

leonardo

jv16 wrote
To which currently known open issues are you referring to?

I was referring to the follwing issues, IMHO still open in build 981:

1. From the “List of currently unfixed bugs” in Bugtracker with Bugid: 212357, 239314, 268972 and 932598

2. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4254#p26228

3. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=90#p26110

4. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=90#p26111

5. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=90#p26112

6. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=105#p26131

ADDED after the comment below from Tullik on Sat Oct 23, 2010 4 am:

7. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p25962

8. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4073&p=23829&hilit=columns+size+preferred+dates#p23829

tullik

In particular, these mentioned by Leonardo make lists painful to work with:

3. The double click area of all the columns is too narrow.

5. Rightmost list column has no manipulatable right boundary.

I would add a #7, which I think Leonardo reported somewhere here, albeit differently:

7. Some lists (File Finder for example) flicker wildly, display temporary black corruption, and run too slowly while the list populates (*).

In the worst case (rare and not predictable), ALL PowerTools windows freeze cluttering the desktop and respond to nothing. You have to kill jv16pt.exe.

(*) Workaround: minimize the list window while it populates. You don't see the useless (unreadable) window while it populates. The tool finishes the window much faster. You can usually tell when it is done by watching the windows task manager performance graph.

leonardo

tullik wrote
In particular, these mentioned by Leonardo ...........

I would add a #7, which I think Leonardo reported somewhere here, albeit differently:

7. Some lists (File Finder for example) flicker wildly, display temporary black corruption, and run too slowly while the list populates (*).

In the worst case (rare and not predictable), ALL PowerTools windows freeze cluttering the desktop and respond to nothing. You have to kill jv16pt.exe.

(*) Workaround: minimize the list window while it populates. You don't see the useless (unreadable) window while it populates. The tool finishes the window much faster. You can usually tell when it is done by watching the windows task manager performance graph.

Thank you Tullik, indeed I missed this one: http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p25962 but I have added it now as #7 in my original post.

jv16

tullik wrote
In particular, these mentioned by Leonardo make lists painful to work with:

3. The double click area of all the columns is too narrow.

5. Rightmost list column has no manipulatable right boundary.

These two issues are already fixed, the fixes will be included to the next released build. We are developing the 2011 on the side, so we can continue to release updated builds of PT 2010 even as we are already working with the new version. A new build with these two issues fixed will be most likely released later in this month.

At the moment the Change Log is:

Bug fix: If you start the Clean and Fix My Computer using a command line paramter or a desktop icon, its Search Words box could contain "memSearchWords" Bug fix: The Explore function under the More Functions menu of the Directory tool works on the first selected item of the list, while it should work on the highlighted item. Bug fix: The Filename field of Startup Manager's top panel always says "N/A". Bug fix: Closing a tool window with the filter panel visible, causes the program to crash to "Cannot change visibility in OnChange" if the same tool window is opened again. Bug fix: Double clicking the line between two columns can cause sorting to occur, even as it should only resize the column. Improvement: The Registry Cleaner no longer reports keys relating to Norton/Symantec products as errors, these keys are protected agains modifications by the Norton/Symantec product. Improvement: It's now possible to resize the very last column of the result lists.

Updated translations: Chinese Simplified, Japanese, Russian

tullik wrote

I would add a #7, which I think Leonardo reported somewhere here, albeit differently:

7. Some lists (File Finder for example) flicker wildly, display temporary black corruption, and run too slowly while the list populates (*).

In the worst case (rare and not predictable), ALL PowerTools windows freeze cluttering the desktop and respond to nothing. You have to kill jv16pt.exe.

I'm afraid we haven't been able to fix this problem yet, it will most likely carry on to 2011.

leonardo

jv16 wrote
.....These two issues (list.#3 + #5) are already fixed, the fixes will be included to the next released build.

We are developing the 2011 on the side, so we can continue to release updated builds of PT 2010 even as we are already working with the new version.

A new build with these two issues fixed will be most likely released later in this month.......

I'm afraid we haven't been able to fix problem list.#7 yet, it will most likely carry on to 2011......

Could you please comment on the remaining issues:

EDITED with the comment of jv16 as of Monday October 25th, 05 pm

#1.Bugtracker "unfixed bugs”:

Bugid 212357 (W2k error code), low priority issue that we are working on, I hope to get this fixed but I can't promise anything,

Bugid 268972 (jv16PT Uninstaller issue), to be fixed in 2011 version,

Bugid 239314 (Restore column size), fixed in next build,

Budid 932598 (Drag&Drop Anti-Malware tool), fixed in next build.

#2. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4254#p26228 (fixed, in next build)

#4. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=90#p26111 (fixed, in next build)

#6. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=105#p26131 (SystemOptimizer BackUps, not a bug, works as designed)

#7. Issued by Tullik, Still open, (most likely carry on to 2011)

#8. Issued by Tullik, Still open.

tullik

Here's a #8: http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4073&p=23829&hilit=columns+size+preferred+dates#p23829 (size/dates/preferred columns issue)

It still happens sometimes, but less often than during the betas.

I have not yet identified a step by step way to reproduce the issue. It "seems" to occur randomly. It fairly often affects File Finder and File Cleaner, but perhaps not the File Tool.

Also see: http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=26251#p26251 (a PT2011 request involving size/dates/preferred columns issues)

leonardo

tullik wrote
Here's a #8: http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4073&p=23829&hilit=columns+size+preferred+dates#p23829 (size/dates/preferred columns issue)

It still happens sometimes, but less often than during the betas.

I have not yet identified a step by step way to reproduce the issue. It "seems" to occur randomly. It fairly often affects File Finder and File Cleaner, but perhaps not the File Tool.

I can confirm this #8 issue for XP-Pro-SP3 with build 981.

First I set in File finder the 'preferred columns' with 'Size' and 'Date'(=last accessed).

Than I started build 981 in DEBUG mode.

With File Finder I did a search with keyword 'jv16' on my user disk, -> found 143 hits. The finished scan report showed both preferred columns 'Size' and 'Date'.

I closed File Finder, opened it again and did a search with keyword 'office' on my user disk, -> found 288 hits.

In this case both colums 'Size' and 'Date' do not appear while during the build up of the scan report quite some screen flickering occured (as Tullik described)!

In my XP-P3 system I could fairly easy invoke this issue and repeat the test.

Attached are the Debug Log's of test-01 and test-02, each with a clean jv16PT-981 start and a clean Debug Log.

In test-02, after running File finder with keyword 'office', I disabled the preferred column setting Date(=last accessed) which indeed caused the 'Size' colum to reappear, but now followed by a ~1 minute period of screen flickering.

Debug Mode seems to intensify the problem, much longer flickering and a different kind of flickering of the screen. The flickering is now caused by the Scan report File item lines, shown below each displayed Directory line, to disappear(=blank screen, not black) and reappear, with a frequency of ~ 2-3 times per sec.

I think this issue is 'quite annoying'.

jv16

Leonardo wrote

Could you please comment on the remaining issues:

1. Bugtracker "unfixed bugs”: Bugid 212357 (W2k error code),

This is a low priority issue that we are working on, I hope to get this fixed but I can't promise anything.

Leonardo wrote

268972 (Uninstaller issue),

This issue will be fixed with the new Software Uninstaller of the PT 2011.

Leonardo wrote

239314 (Restore column size)

This should now be fixed.

Leonardo wrote

932598 (Drag/Drop Anti-Malwaretool)

I changed the status of this report to "failed to verify", I cannot verify the issue. Either it was fixed earlier or it occurs only on some systems and I cannot reproduce it.

Leonardo wrote

2. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4254#p26228 (comment of jv16 -> fixed, available in next build)

4. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=90#p26111 (comment of jv16 -> confirmed, will be fixed later)

These issues are already fixed, the fix will be included to the next released build.

Leonardo wrote

6. http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4239&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=105#p26131 (SystemOptimizer BackUps, no reply yet)

This is by design. Some features of PowerTools use hidden backups which are not listed by the Backup tool, System Optimizer is one of these tools. To undo (i.e. restore a backup), one needs to go to the System Optimizer and untick the checkboxes.

leonardo

Leonardo wrote

Bugid: 932598 (Drag/Drop Anti-Malwaretool)

jv16 wrote

I changed the status of this report to "failed to verify", I cannot verify the issue. Either it was fixed earlier or it occurs only on some systems and I cannot reproduce it.

Thanks for your reply this morning.

I am really surprised that Bugid: 932598 (reported already July 4th 2010) cannot be reproduced in your (test)environment.

I could reproduce it on 3 pc's XP-SP3 and 2 pc's W7 x86!

Hopefully other forum readers will give it a try too!

Bugid: 932598 actually reports 2 bugs in the Anti Malware tool, perhaps they are related.

Please try the following:

1.close jv16PT and restart jv16PT (clean start is mandatory)

2.go to Home -> click on "Verify my downloads are safe to run", this opens the jv16PT 2010 Anti-Malware window.

3.in the box "Scan the following files...." type (not Drag & Drop) a directory (e.g. e:\cdfoon) and uncheck the check box "Scan the following download directories..."

4.If you now push the 'Start' button, one would expact only the directory e:\cdfoon to be scanned. However a split second after the 'Start' button is pussed the empty check box for "Scan the following download directories...." is automatically checked again and so scanned for malware. This happening is just visible on the screen, if you watch carefully! the end result is that the directory e:\$T60 is (unwillingly) scanned too.

5.erase the typed directory name (e:\cdfoon) in the box "Scan the following files....."

6.now try to Drag and Drop any directory name in that box. You can not. You get displayed a 'forbidden' sign: a circle with a diagonal line thru it.

7.Closing and restarting jv16PR 2010 will reset the system and right now you can only once drag & drop a directory name in the box "Scan the following files"

Anti-Malware_Tool_01.jpg

Anti-Malware_Tool_02.jpg

jv16

Leonardo wrote

Please try the following:

1.close jv16PT and restart jv16PT (clean start is mandatory)

2.go to Home -> click on "Verify my downloads are safe to run", this opens the jv16PT 2010 Anti-Malware window.

3.in the box "Scan the following files...." type (not Drag & Drop) a directory (e.g. e:\cdfoon) and uncheck the check box "Scan the following download directories..."

4.If you now push the 'Start' button, one would expact only the directory e:\cdfoon to be scanned. However a split second after the 'Start' button is pussed the empty check box for "Scan the following download directories...." is automatically checked again and so scanned for malware. This happening is just visible on the screen, if you watch carefully! the end result is that the directory e:\$T60 is (unwillingly) scanned too.

You are correct, this is indeed a bug. It's now fixed.

Leonardo wrote

5.erase the typed directory name (e:\cdfoon) in the box "Scan the following files....."

6.now try to Drag and Drop any directory name in that box. You can not. You get displayed a 'forbidden' sign: a circle with a diagonal line thru it.

7.Closing and restarting jv16PR 2010 will reset the system and right now you can only once drag & drop a directory name in the box "Scan the following files"

I got it now, I was able to reproduce the issue and it's now fixed. The fix will be included to the next build.

leonardo

jv16 wrote

I got it now, I was able to reproduce the issue (Bugid: 932598, added by Leonardo) and it's now fixed.

The fix will be included to the next build.

Thank you jv16!

jv16

Leonardo wrote

Thank you jv16!

Just doing my job, thank you for reporting the issue. If I had read your report properly the first time, I would have got the issue fixed much faster. I missed the fact that you must close the Anti-Malware window for the problem to occur.

leonardo

jv16 wrote
Leonardo wrote

Thank you jv16!

Just doing my job, thank you for reporting the issue. If I had read your report properly the first time, I would have got the issue fixed much faster. I missed the fact that you must close the Anti-Malware window for the problem to occur.

I guess changing the status of Bugtracker/Bugid=932598 is the last thing to do.

leonardo

tullik wrote
Here's a #8: http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4073&p=23829&hilit=columns+size+preferred+dates#p23829 (size/dates/preferred columns issue)

It still happens sometimes, but less often than during the betas.

I have not yet identified a step by step way to reproduce the issue. It "seems" to occur randomly.

It fairly often affects File Finder and File Cleaner, but perhaps not the File Tool.

I can confirm this #8 issue for XP-Pro-SP3 with build 981.

1.Set in File Finder the 'preferred columns' with 'Size' and 'Date'(=Last accessed).

2.File Finder search with keyword '.exe' on my user disk. The finished scan report did not show the preferred columns 'Size' and 'Date'.

3.Disabled the preferred column setting Date(=Last accessed), which caused the 'Size' colum to reappear, but followed by a long period of screen flickering.

4.Enabled the preferred column setting Date(=Last accessed), which caused the 'Last accessed' colum to reappear, followed by a long period of screen flickering.

I think the issue is 'quite annoying'.

I made a video (.avi) of the issue but cannot upload it because it is 4.8MB zipped.

regmos

Leonardo wrote

I made a video (.avi) of the issue but cannot upload it because it is 4.8MB zipped!

I don't know if this recommendation is against forum rules. If that's the case, please delete it.

You can record your videoes, with this free program from Techsmith: http://www.techsmith.com/jing/

Then you can upload the video directly from Jing to a free account at Screencast. com (also Techsmith): https://www.screencast.com/

When the upload is done, you will have a URL in your clipboard, ready to paste in your next post.

leonardo

Regmos wrote
.......You can record your videoes, with this free program from Techsmith: http://www.techsmith.com/jing/......

Thank you Regmos,

After downloading jing_setup.exe, the installation runs into: Error 1606. Could not access network location %USERPROFILE%\NetHood\

regmos

Leonardo wrote

Thank you Regmos,

After downloading jing_setup.exe, the installation runs into: Error 1606. Could not access network location %USERPROFILE%\NetHood\

You're welcome.

I'm sorry, but I don't know what caused the problem, I've never experienced any problems with Jing.

But even if you can't get it to work, you can still create a Screencast account, upload your video and share it from there.

You must click the little "Share" button next to your video (three small arrows pointing up) and choose the link you want to use.

http://www.screencast.com/users/Training/folders/Screencast.com%20Training/media/49c48780-bcb1-4abc-b16b-66cbe07d99ae

leonardo

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