jv16 PowerTools 2010 Beta6 released! (Latest build: 938)

parkd1

Thank. .NET framework is another I was not seeing too. I have all versions installed even the new 4 version. I have the list from both Windows 7 and JV 16 so you can see what ones are not showing up. Not sure if this will help but will upload. In options you and click on Advanced Mode under general that adds two additional columns in the details view of the Uninstaller - Registry Key and Uninstall String. That may help too.

uninstaller.rar

leonardo

parkd1 wrote
Thank. .NET framework is another I was not seeing too. I have all versions installed even the new 4 version.

Do you have installed ALL versions of .NET e.g. 1.0/1.1/2.0/3.0/3.5/4.0? And if so does .NET 4.0 overrule all previous releases because the attached "Revo uninstaller" screenshot does only show version 4.0. In my case, but I DO NOT have 4.0, all .NET versions show up in "revo uninstaller" and also in Microsoft "Windows Install Cleanup".

The same is true for the products "Microsoft Visual C++ versions 2005/2008/2010". However jv16PT2010-beta6-v938 only shows one of each kind.

jv16

Leonardo wrote
However jv16PT2010-beta6-v938 only shows one of each kind.

This mainly for safety purposes. Since jv16 PowerTools also allows you to do a custom uninstall of software, that is, an uninstall using PowerTools' own uninstallation engine in addition to the uninstaller of the software in question (which may or may not work), PowerTools cannot guarantee that when uninstalling, for example, .NET 1.0, it would be able to detect and skip everything relating to .NET 1.1.

Therefore all the product versions are usually grouped together, so PowerTools only lists .NET, not all the different versions that may exist in the system.

leonardo

jv16 wrote
Leonardo wrote However jv16PT2010-beta6-v938 only shows one of each kind.

This mainly for safety purposes. Since jv16 PowerTools also allows you to do a custom uninstall of software, that is, an uninstall using PowerTools' own uninstallation engine in addition to the uninstaller of the software in question (which may or may not work), PowerTools cannot guarantee that when uninstalling, for example, .NET 1.0, it would be able to detect and skip everything relating to .NET 1.1.

Therefore all the product versions are usually grouped together, so PowerTools only lists .NET, not all the different versions that may exist in the system.

Does this imply that e.g choosing custom uninstall for .NET will custom uninstall ALL installed versions of .NET (1.0+1.1+2.0+3.0+3.5).

If this is the case than this probably NOT what an end user expects and wants. "Revo" and "Microsoft Install Clean Up" do uninstall individual versions, as I have tested!

parkd1

Leonardo wrote
parkd1 wroteThank. .NET framework is another I was not seeing too. I have all versions installed even the new 4 version.

Do you have installed ALL versions of .NET e.g. 1.0/1.1/2.0/3.0/3.5/4.0? And if so does .NET 4.0 overrule all previous releases because the attached "Revo uninstaller" screenshot does only show version 4.0. In my case, but I DO NOT have 4.0, all .NET versions show up in "revo uninstaller" and also in Microsoft "Windows Install Cleanup".

The same is true for the products "Microsoft Visual C++ versions 2005/2008/2010". However jv16PT2010-beta6-v938 only shows one of each kind.

It is a Vista full installed with a upgrade to 7. To what ever versions that came with Vista and 7 plus version 4. You can download version 4 for free. Are you going to make it better to find what is installed on the computer?

leonardo

parkd1 wrote
1.Thanks, .NET framework is another I was not seeing too. I have all versions installed even the new 4 version. I have the list from both Windows 7 and JV 16 so you can see what ones are not showing up.

2.It is a Vista full installed with a upgrade to 7. To what ever versions that came with Vista and 7 plus version 4. You can download version 4 for free. Are you going to make it better to find what is installed on the computer?

Please remember that this discussion started with your remark that jv16PT uninstaller does NOT show ALL the sw products installed on your computer. You stated that from certain products like .NET and visual C++ not ALL versions were listed.

My conclusion so far is that unexpectedly jv16PT does NOT show all versions of the installed sw products, like in other products.

But jv16PT sees all those individual installed versions as one group ( for safety reasons as the developer said).

However I am not so sure that end users expect this and want this. It is certainly an unexpected and unwanted surprise for me.

jv16

Leonardo wrote

Does this imply that e.g choosing custom uninstall for .NET will custom uninstall ALL installed versions of .NET (1.0+1.1+2.0+3.0+3.5).

If this is the case than this probably NOT what an end user expects and wants.

You have a valid point. Because of that, the following confirmation will be from now on showed to users when using the Software Uninstaller feature:

Using thie feature to uninstall software "{1}" means that PowerTools removes all found traces of the software, including all possible other versions of the software as well. If you wish only to uninstall a specific version of a software, you should use the Custom Uninstall > Run Uninstaller feature.

Do you wish to fully uninstall "{1}" and remove all found traces of the software?

Leonardo wrote

"Revo" and "Microsoft Install Clean Up" do uninstall individual versions, as I have tested!

In that case they are probably just launching the software's own uninstaller. You can do the same with the Custom Uninstall > Run Uninstaller feature of PowerTools' Software Uninstaller.

leonardo

jv16 wrote
Leonardo wrote

Does this imply that e.g choosing custom uninstall for .NET will custom uninstall ALL installed versions of .NET (1.0+1.1+2.0+3.0+3.5).

If this is the case than this probably NOT what an end user expects and wants.

You have a valid point. Because of that, the following confirmation will be from now on showed to users when using the Software Uninstaller feature:
Using the feature to uninstall software "{1}" means that PowerTools removes all found traces of the software, including all possible other versions of the software as well. If you wish only to uninstall a specific version of a software, you should use the Custom Uninstall > Run Uninstaller feature.

Do you wish to fully uninstall "{1}" and remove all found traces of the software?
Leonardo wrote

"Revo" and "Microsoft Install Clean Up" do uninstall individual versions, as I have tested!

In that case they are probably just launching the software's own uninstaller. You can do the same with the Custom Uninstall > Run Uninstaller feature of PowerTools' Software Uninstaller.

Thank you for clarifying these matter!

I am sure "Microsoft Install Clean Up" is using the software's own Uninstaller, but I really doubt "Revo" is doing the same. Checkout their free version, if you can.

jv16

Leonardo wrote
Checkout their free version, if you can.

I will. And I have been hoping to give the Software Uninstaller an extensive rebuild for some time now. It's a great feature but I think it still has a lot of untapped potential.

I'm hoping to get some improvements to the feature for PowerTools 2011 but lets see.

In the mean time, PT 2010 Beta7 has been released. Check it out.

redseujac

Leonardo wrote
"Revo" and "Microsoft Install Clean Up" do uninstall individual versions, as I have tested! ...

I am sure "Microsoft Install Clean Up" is using the software's own Uninstaller...

Windows Installer CleanUp Utility just removes installation information for programs that were installed by using Windows Installer. The tool does NOT remove the actual program from your computer. However, it will remove the installation files so that you can start the installation, upgrade, or uninstall over.

This is what is explained in this article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301/en-us

So Windows Installer CleanUp is not really an uninstaller.

leonardo

redseujac wrote
Leonardo wrote "Revo" and "Microsoft Install Clean Up" do uninstall individual versions, as I have tested! ...

I am sure "Microsoft Install Clean Up" is using the software's own Uninstaller...

Windows Installer CleanUp Utility just removes installation information for programs that were installed by using Windows Installer. The tool does NOT remove the actual program from your computer. However, it will remove the installation files so that you can start the installation, upgrade, or uninstall over.

This is what is explained in this article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301/en-us

So Windows Installer CleanUp is not really an uninstaller.

This is true.

The combination of Windows Add/Remove software followed Windows Installer CleanUp followed by jv16PT Registry Finder does a pretty good uninstall and cleanup job.

My point was that "Windows Installer CleanUp" (like Revo) recognizes individual installed versions of a certain product and supports individual uninstall/cleanup.

jv16PT does not (for reasons explained by the developer) and I was surprised by the consequense that jv16PT would uninstall ALL versions of the product in one take.

redseujac

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hkgeorge42

I downloaded the software without problems. During installation, the X86 Program Files folder was automatically selected as the installation folder. Following installation, the software indicated that it was "analysing your system" and the program started clearly showing X64 version operation.

I ran the program, and it fixed all found errors except for an empty folder in the StartUp folder.

1. I like that the Beta6 correctly identified my system as X64, and ran sucessfully, but

2. I don't like it that an X64 software installed itself in the X86 Program Files folder, but then, only fanatical purists will care about this. I really only care that it correctly identified an X64 system and configured itself for that.

3. I would like for the initial "analyzing your system .. .. .." notice to say what and why? I believe that the auto-configuration for X64 systems should have at least this level of notification.

4. I really like the new interface capability of instant one-click access to backup files. I cannot remember ever having to reinstall any backups from the JV16 software range, but I am not a geek-user, but I like the "comfort level" this option brings.

There are othe Reg Cleaners available, but this is by far the best and safest in my opinion.

leonardo

hkgeorge42 wrote
I downloaded the software without problems. .........

1. I like that the Beta6 correctly identified my system as X64, and ran sucessfully, but............

jv16PT Beta6 is 'outdated' quite a while. Why did you download this 'old' version and not the current version jv16PT-2011 2.0.0.1009?

jv16

hkgeorge42 wrote
I downloaded the software without problems.

Not this beta you didn't, it's no longer available for download.

redseujac

Anyway the betatesting is finished for quite some time. So there's no need to post here reports about betatesting the program.

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