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redseujac wrote

I think I prefer this possibility / solution.

With all my deep respect for Tullik, maybe his suggestion is way too complicated for some users.

I agree. Tullik's solution works and we will use it if we cannot get the Uninstaller to ask whether the user wishes to keep e.g. the backups and settings. But I think we should be able to get the Uninstaller to do that.

jv16

Another little neat feature of PowerTools 2010:

When you start a tool with many tabs, such as the File Finder, you need to know what settings are enabled under each tab before you start a scan. With PowerTools 2009 this ment that you needed to browse through each and every tab in order to make sure there were no unwanted settings enabled. This is an issue because the tools, by default, remember the previous search settings you have used.

PowerTools 2010 offers a simple usability improvement to solve this problem:

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I just started the File Finder. Notice the little "i" icon over the Search By Attributes tab? (Yeah, I know, the icon is a bit difficult to see at the moment, we are working on that.) That icon means that the settings under Attributes tab are affecting the search.

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Clicking the Attributes tab shows that there are some settings enabled, I can uncheck these if I want, but I do not need to go through every tab to make sure every other search parameter is unchecked. This feature also takes into account Ignore Words, if there are any the "i" icon will be shown.

tullik

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redseujac

tullik wrote
...However, asking the question when installing means the user must anticipate a possible future event.

I agree asking the same question in the uninstaller is better. That defers the user's decision until the future event actually arrives.

Exactly!

But ... maybe it's also possible the installer/setup detects before/during installation remaining/existing settings/preferences/backups from a former installation kept by the user during a former uninstallation and asks the users if they (still) wants to keep them?

That way you have a double possibility to take a decision.

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I've been working on a test installer to see how powerful a certain installer creation software is, and have already implemented an uninstaller that allows the user to keep things like backups, settings etc. It would also be possible to detect these on (re)install and allow them to be retained. I'll post more on these later on my development log once I've had feedback from Jouni.

siliconman01

I just hope that PT 2010 Beta 1 is x64 fully compatible so that us x64 users can "enjoy" beta testing from the git-go. :

jv16

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redseujac

hukka wrote
... It would also be possible to detect these on (re)install and allow them to be retained...

Will this feature also be present in the installer in addition to the possibility to keep settings etc. while uninstalling?

jv16

redseujac wrote
hukka wrote... It would also be possible to detect these on (re)install and allow them to be retained...

Will this feature also be present in the installer in addition to the possibility to keep settings etc. while uninstalling?

This is actually not required. If you do not uninstall or otherwise delete the backups or settings, they will not be lost when you install a newer version over the old version.

redseujac

Yes, I see...

But what to do when the user decided to keep settings, etc. during a former uninstall, though he likes to abandon them when installing a new version? That's theoretically a possible situation.

That was the purpose of my previous post, or am I missing something?

I write this because I experienced that when installing some other software, during new installation the installer informed me that settings/preferences of a former/previous version were detected and asked me what to do: keep them or not.

You see?

tullik

The PowerTools' settings are close to 100% backward compatible and easy to change where they are not, and the Backup Tool lets the user easily remove any number of prior backups.

So, IMO, an installation time query about their immediate removal is not really necessary for PowerTools.

In any case, I always reuse the prior settings and keep the backups.

However, a YES or NO retain question would do no harm, unless the user checked the wrong choice by accident.

redseujac

I agree!

"However, a YES or NO retain question would do no harm, unless the user checked the wrong choice by accident": you are right, but the wrong choice by accident might be done also when uninstalling :

jv16

redseujac wrote

But what to do when the user decided to keep settings, etc. during a former uninstall, though he likes to abandon them when installing a new version? That's theoretically a possible situation.

I just don't see any reason why someone wouldn't want to keep their old backups or settings. Especially when you can just delete all backups with the Backup Tool. And for the settings, PT 2010 Settings tool will contain a "reset to defaults" button that allows you basically restore the default settings, i.e. delete all old settings.

redseujac

OK, I resign :

But as to the possibility to choose the language in setup, it should be possible that setup detects the system language settings automatically and immediately presents that language as the default setup language?

Anyway several programs I installed, acted that way. So it IS possible :

tullik

redseujac wrote
... But as to the possibility to choose the language in setup, it should be possible that setup detects the system language settings automatically and immediately presents that language as the default setup language? ...

The set of languages available in windows is much larger than the set of translations available to PowerTools. Also, the naming conventions are different.

Therefore, IMO, it is best to continue to let the user choose the preferred available PowerTools translation.

jv16

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redseujac

No it doesn't work: the Quick Tutorial always selects the English language instead of Dutch :?

Could it be because Quick Tutorial searches for "Dutch" instead of "Nederlands" (i.e. translation for Dutch)? My system region settings mention "Nederlands" and not "Dutch".

But I assume Setup itself (and not Quick Tutorial) will select the system (e.g. Windows) current language in version 2010?

Notice that the forbidden "olden times" illegal installer did that job perfectly, so...

redseujac

tullik wrote
The set of languages available in windows is much larger than the set of translations available to PowerTools. Also, the naming conventions are different.

The installer might check if the system language exists in Macecraft's available translations and if not just select the English language.

But indeed maybe it's more reliable to let the user choose himself: look at my previous post where I explained even Quick Tutorial doesn't find my propre system language.

jv16

There are so many features needed relating to the maintenance of the PowerTools itself that I decided to remove the Maintenance tab from the Settings (what does program maintenance have to do with settings anyways..? What was I thinking when I added it there : ) and to create a new tool called Maintenance Tool.

The Maintenance Tool will allow you to do many handy things, such as delete backups older than X days, remove all Registry Compactor's backup files not available via Backup Tool and so on, and so on. Many neat new features.

If you have any feature requests, let me know.

jv16

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