Cookie Control Removed??!!!!

bdh

I have just downloaded JV16 2007 but thought I'd look at the forums prior to loading just to see if I should hold off. Well . . . I see many problems people are talking about but the one which peaked my interest was the 'dropping' of the cookie manager! What a retrograde move! I currently have the 2006 version set to delete my specifically chosen 'bad' cookies upon boot up every morning and in the 2007 version there is no such capability! Unfortunately, I shall now be thinking about keeping to my 2006 version I think. With all the new technology in the 2007 version they just couldn't leave well enough alone! Does the term "If it ain't broke, DON'T fix it" mean anything to you??!!! Now, instead of a quick automatic deletion of these bad cookies at startup I shall have to manually run Lavasoft or some such utility to rid my system of bad cookies. What is JV thinking by deleting this wonderful feature? They do quote "user feedback" as their reason. Well I hope they are now listening to MY user feedback. As a long time user I am a complete loss. Please explain, someone . . . cheers, Brian.

tullik

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bdh

Many thanks to Tullik for your response re cookies - very much appreciated. I shall install 2007 into a seperate folder and run the two side by side (certainly messy though). Would have been much tidier just to have kept cookie manager in 2007 - what harm would it have done?! - Again, thanks Tullik for your time.

jv16

Well, if the PT 2006 is working well for you, there's no need to update. If you would like to use some of the new features, you can just install the PT 2007 to another directory, like Tullik said.

There were many reasons why the cookie features were removed. These include: our user surveys showed not many people used the features, similar features are already available in many other products, adding support to all the major browser seemed like too much work.

[deleted]

Nobody asked me in a survey. :)

JV's Cookie Manager was (is) the best in the business. Now, I'll have to go my browser to manage cookies or go back to another folder with JV16 2006. Yes, there are a lot of other cookie managers out there, but it's inconvenient not to have the JV16 Cookie Manager right there where I can run it quickly, along with the other maintenance items.

Bring back the Cookie Manager! Maybe we could take up a collection? Pay a little something extra to get it back?

John

jrd1st

Why don't you just use CCleaner to manage your cookies?

After you install it, just set it up (be sure to set it to save the cookies you wanna keep), create a shortcut on your desktop such as this;

"C:\Program Files\CCleaner\ccleaner.exe" /AUTO

then just double click the shortcut after you exit your browser.

[deleted]

JRd 1st,

I see your point, but it's a matter of convenience. There are other registry cleaners out there, too, and other methods of cleaning up histories and the like. The value of JV16 is having them all in one place, you see.

John

bdh

Yeah, right on John Pucco - I fully agree. Oh well, as the JV developer says, we may have to use 2006 in tandem. Sort of kills the purpose of an 'all-in-one' piece of wizardry. Just can't understand why a good thing was axed - couldn't have been any trouble leaving it in! More trouble to pull it out!!? A collection sounds like a good idea, dunno if it will get off the ground though. I don't know if I'd like to trust CCleaner or any other one after using JV16 for so long and so successfully. Cheers, Brian (Sydney, Australia)

jimmars

Yeah, I didn't see the survey either.

However, let me also put in a good word for CCleaner. http://www.ccleaner.com/ it does an excellent job of killing "bad" cookies automatically on boot-up and is very fast. Double clicking a desktop icon and running it after a session isn't bad either if you prefer that. Did I mention that it is free?

Lots of other good features like the issues scanner and all sorts of history cleaners.

I use jv16 primarily as a registry cleaner and tweaker and think it's the best around for that.

The combination of jv16 and CCleaner is a winner.

But I wouldn't have eliminated features from the new jv16 either. Kinda makes it a less "powerful" PowerTool. Goes into the "what were they thinking" file.

Just noticed the comment about "adding support to all the major browser seemed like too much work" Hmmmmmmmmm.

CCleaner works with other major browsers too, as well as a couple of dozen other major applications. Guess it wasn't too much work for them in producing a free utility.

blake

Hello,

I use no software to manage cookies.

With FireFox + CookieSafe, no problem with the cookies.

I never have tracking-cookie.

jaaktmgi

Hello,

I just wanted to say that I do not understand it either why a flawlessly working feature had to be removed.

I use the "Cookie Manager" of jv16 PowerTools 2006 every day.

Recommendation of using versions 2006 and 2007 in parallel is sort of ridiculous.

Jaak

teozsen

I too think it was a great loss. I used to feel very safe restarting my pc if it froze while I surfed ,in the knowledge this program would remove cookies on reboot that might have been the problem. :

jv16

Jim Mars wrote
Yeah, I didn't see the survey either.

It was on our website for a month or so, you can still find information about it at http://www.macecraft.com/archive/

Just noticed the comment about "adding support to all the major browser seemed like too much work" Hmmmmmmmmm.

CCleaner works with other major browsers too, as well as a couple of dozen other major applications. Guess it wasn't too much work for them in producing a free utility.

CCleaner is a very simple program with only a few features, jv16 PowerTools is much more complex with dozens if not hundreds of more features. Adding new features, such as a cookie feature that supports all browsers to a simpler program is much easier than to more complex one.

And it all comes down to where to focus our time, since there are many pretty good cookie managers out there we just didn't feel it was worth it.

jv16

jaaktmgi wrote
Hello,

I just wanted to say that I do not understand it either why a flawlessly working feature had to be removed.

One reason why it was removed was that it didn't work very flawlessly, just do a search with Cookie Manager from the forum and you'll see quite a few threads about problems with the Cookie Manager.

This thread also confirms that not quite many people actually used the feature. So far we have five users in this thread who wish to get the feature back, if we consider that the product is being used by hundreds of thousands of people five isn't really that much.

jv16

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blake

Hello,

Those who need a software for cookies should learn to use their browser correctly rather than to regret the disappearance of Cookie Manager.