Registry compactor jv16 2.1.0.1173 error

liamz

Vasek wrote
It doesn't also appear in Windows Vista.

If you want to run the phase II in this system you must click on an icon in the tray.

The problem is maybe here (UAC - User Account Control)?

Thanks for the information, there is no icon in my system.

leonardo

liamZ wrote

Hi, after a clean installation of jv16 still the same problem.

I tried to compact the other user hives (Default, LocalService and Networkservice) with succes for the last ones,

for the DEFAULT hive i got this:

20.12.2012 12 - Compacted size: 176,00 KB (Compression: 65,63%)

20.12.2012 12 - Error: Too large compression! Skipping hive for safety...

But for my user hives no compaction and no phaseII window.

1. This is normal for the DEFAULT hive. By design jv16PT has a safety threshold for the allowed Max. Compression %

2. I ran a registry compaction for only the user hives.

See the two attached screenshots below. The second screenshot is of the Phase-2 command prompt window that shows up at the W7 restart after phase-1 completion.

RegistryCompactor_01.jpg

RegistryCompactor_02.jpg

liamz

Leonardo wrote
liamZ wrote

Hi, after a clean installation of jv16 still the same problem.

I tried to compact the other user hives (Default, LocalService and Networkservice) with succes for the last ones,

for the DEFAULT hive i got this:

20.12.2012 12 - Compacted size: 176,00 KB (Compression: 65,63%)

20.12.2012 12 - Error: Too large compression! Skipping hive for safety...

But for my user hives no compaction and no phaseII window.

1. This is normal for the DEFAULT hive. By design jv16PT has a safety threshold for the allowed Max. Compression %

2. I ran a registry compaction for only the user hives.

.

See the two attached screenshots below. The second screenshot is of the Phase-2 command prompt window that shows up at the W7 restart after phase-1 completion.

RegistryCompactor_01.jpg
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RegistryCompactor_02.jpg

Hi, thanks a lot for verifying. These are my questions:

1. After selecting the hives to compact and pressing OK. How many restarts do the process? One or two.

2. The command prompt window i see shows the same as yours. I don't understand if the screenshot is of the Phase-2 command prompt window, why it tells you it wasn't possible to compact one or more hives. Maybe I am seeing the phase 2 window but not the phase 1?

3 I see you have two users. For the user 1001 the program perform the compresion but for the other user 1005 the program shows the same error. Have you check if there is a backup for the two hives of the 1005 user?

Thanks.

leonardo

liamZ wrote
Leonardo wrote
liamZ wrote

Hi, after a clean installation of jv16 still the same problem.

I tried to compact the other user hives (Default, LocalService and Networkservice) with succes for the last ones,

for the DEFAULT hive i got this:

20.12.2012 12 - Compacted size: 176,00 KB (Compression: 65,63%)

20.12.2012 12 - Error: Too large compression! Skipping hive for safety...

But for my user hives no compaction and no phaseII window.

1. This is normal for the DEFAULT hive. By design jv16PT has a safety threshold for the allowed Max. Compression %

2. I ran a registry compaction for only the user hives.

.

See the two attached screenshots below. The second screenshot is of the Phase-2 command prompt window that shows up at the W7 restart after phase-1 completion.

RegistryCompactor_01.jpg
.
RegistryCompactor_02.jpg

Hi, thanks a lot for verifying. These are my questions:

1. After selecting the hives to compact and pressing OK. How many restarts do the process? One or two.

2. The command prompt window i see shows the same as yours. I don't understand if the screenshot is of the Phase-2 command prompt window, why it tells you it wasn't possible to compact one or more hives. Maybe I am seeing the phase 2 window but not the phase 1?

3. I see you have two users. For the user 1001 the program perform the compression but for the other user 1005 the program shows the same error. Have you check if there is a backup for the two hives of the 1005 user?.....Thanks.

1. Two

2. Yes, The second screenshot(_02) is the phase-2 command prompt window.

Really the text in this phase-2 command window is very clear, no compression is done because windows could not find these specific hives!

The phase-1 command prompt window shows right after the W7 reboot that initiates the registry compaction.

On the screen, below the phase-1 command window, the following message is displayed: "WINDOWS IS PREPARING YOUR SYSTEM FOR FIRST USE...

3. See screenshot(_03) for all the compactor (backup) files I have after phase-2 is completed.

RegistryCompactor_03.jpg

4. The Log.txt file (.zipped) from my registry compaction run.

liamz

From the backup list two backups are missing, the ones for the UpdatusUser, the ones that the phaseII window tells you it wasnt possible to compact. Probably you are performing the compact process from that user? Maybe there is always no compact process for the actual user hives?

leonardo

liamZ wrote
From the backup list two backups are missing, the ones for the UpdatusUser, the ones that the phaseII window tells you it wasnt possible to compact. Probably you are performing the compact process from that user? Maybe there is always no compact process for the user hives?

First take some time to quietly look at all the provided information:

The compaction hive selection screenshot, the content of the phase-2 command prompt window, the screenshot of the backed up compaction files and the compaction log.txt (zipped) file.

liamz

Leonardo wrote
liamZ wroteFrom the backup list two backups are missing, the ones for the UpdatusUser, the ones that the phaseII window tells you it wasnt possible to compact. Probably you are performing the compact process from that user? Maybe there is always no compact process for the user hives?

First take some time to quietly look at all the provided information:

The compaction hive selection screenshot, the content of the phase-2 command prompt window, the screenshot of the backed up compaction files and the compaction log.txt (zipped) file.

Thanks a lot for all the information and doing the process. What I see is that I get only one restart and my log file doesn't have the part of the phase2 that yours have. And I also see that your phaseII process tells you there is no compaction for the UpdatusUser user hives, and there is no backup for those hives. Maybe I'm missing something else?

liamz

Sorry, I edited my last post and what i wanted to say was "Maybe there is always no compact process for the actual user hives?

liamz

OK, I just found what it was missing:

To perform phase2 to compact the user hives UAC must be turned off (thanks Vasek).

For me the process takes just one restart, and after phaseI you have to logon in each user you selected to compact, to perform phase 2 for each user.

Another very important thing the program does not tell you is that after the process ends (phase 2 or just phase 1 if you didn't select the normal user hives to compact) another manual restart is necessary cause every change in the registry before the second restart will be lost.

Thanks Leonardo, redseujac and Vasek for helping me with this.

leonardo

liamZ wrote
.....Thanks a lot for all the information and doing the process. What I see is that I get only one restart and my log file doesn't have the part of the phase-2 that yours have. And I also see that your phase-2 process tells you there is no compaction for the UpdatusUser user hives, and there is no backup for those hives. Maybe I'm missing something else?

My laptop has only ONE user (LvB/1001). UpdatusUser (1005) is NOT a real user but a representation of the NVIDIA software update process (I found this using Google Search).

This hive/file is not found during both phase-1 and phase-2 and so not compacted.

If I stop or deinstall this NVIDIA Optimus SW-update process the user UpdatusUser (1005) disappears.

leonardo

liamZ wrote
OK, I just found what it was missing:

To perform phase2 to compact the user hives UAC must be turned off (thanks Vasek).

For me the process takes just one restart, and after phaseI you have to logon in each user you selected to compact, to perform phase 2 for each user.

Another very important thing the program does not tell you is that after the process ends (phase 2 or just phase 1 if you didn't select the normal user hives to compact) another manual restart is necessary cause every change in the registry before the second restart will be lost.

Thanks Leonardo, redseujac and Vasek for helping me with this.

I hope that the developer (jv16) can comment on this!

liamz

Leonardo wrote
liamZ wrote.....Thanks a lot for all the information and doing the process. What I see is that I get only one restart and my log file doesn't have the part of the phase-2 that yours have. And I also see that your phase-2 process tells you there is no compaction for the UpdatusUser user hives, and there is no backup for those hives. Maybe I'm missing something else?

My laptop has only ONE user (LvB/1001). UpdatusUser (1005) is NOT a real user but a representation of the NVIDIA software update process (I found this using Google Search).

This hive/file is not found during both phase-1 and phase-2 and so not compacted.

If I stop or deinstall this NVIDIA Optimus SW-update process the user UpdatusUser (1005) disappears.

I don't know in this case but anyway it's a user and the hives are loaded in the registry as jv16PT shows.

Try to find the word regcompact in the registry and maybe you will find RegCompactPhase2 waiting to end the process after login in that user.

Maybe here:

HKEY_USERS\...1005\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce

or here ?

HKEY_USERS\...1005\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

liamz

I found that regcompact waits for the user to login and perform phase2 in:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

And after all phase 2 for each user are performed it is removed from startup.

And phase 1 resides in:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup

SetupType = 2

CmdLine = C:\Program Files\jv16 PowerTools 2012\RegCompact\RegCompact.exe

(if i'm not wrong)

leonardo

liamZ wrote
I found that regcompact waits for the user to login and perform phase2 in:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

And after all phase 2 for each user are performed it is removed from startup.

There is NO waiting phase-2 in my system with only ONE (loged-in) legitimate user, running with UAC off.

liamZ wrote

And phase 1 resides in:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup

SetupType = 2

CmdLine = C:\Program Files\jv16 PowerTools 2012\RegCompact\RegCompact.exe

(if i'm not wrong)

Confirmed.

liamz

Leonardo wrote
There is NO waiting phase-2 in my system with only ONE (loged-in) legitimate user, running with UAC off.

OK, but what i have learned after creating another user account in my computer is:

software, system, default, NetworkService and LocalService Hives compaction process takes place at Phase-1 at the setup process.

The other users hives compaction process takes place after login to each user and RegCompactPhase2 at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

remains there until you login to each user you selected to compact and the phase2 ends with success (or maybe eventually is removed?)

(by the way regcompact and regcompactphase2 are bit by bit the same)

So RegCompact cannot compact the hives of a user with no logon rights.

Another thing I found is that if you have UAC turned on, RegCompatPhase2 doesn't run at startup and remains in

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

A way to not turn off UAC is to manually run RegCompactPhase2, UAC prompts an then Phase2 begins.

And always manually restart the system after the process.

liamz

There is another hive a don't know how to compact:

C:\Windows\System32\config\components

Anybody knows how this hive can be compacted by the program?

redseujac

Well, I tested the tool in Windows 8 64 bit and my system has only one user account.

The problem with running Registry Compactor is that the second phase window keeps showing up after each system reboot.

In the registry I can't find a reference to RegCompactPhase2.exe in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run or RunOnce.

So, it's a mystery for me where and how I can prevent that second phase starting up again.

Finally I have restored a recent registry backup I had made with ERUNT (fortunately) and it's gone now.

My advice: do not use Registry Compactor in Windows 8 64 bit now.

Question: what's causing the second phase keep starting up with each system reboot? It should be somewhere in the registry, but I couldn't find it.

liamz

redseujac wrote
Question: what's causing the second phase keep starting up with each system reboot? It should be somewhere in the registry, but I couldn't find it.

Hi, in my windows 7 32 bits RegCompactPhase2 remains in

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

jv16 PowerTools Registry Compact = C:\Program Files\jv16 PowerTools 2012\RegCompact\RegCompactPhase2.exe

until the program finish with no errors (compacting or not compacting the hives). So if the program fails to open the hive will try in the next boot, and keeps adding lines to the C:\Program Files\jv16 PowerTools 2012\RegCompact\log.txt

I have no experience with windows 64 bits but I thinks there's two versions of regedit 32 bits and 64 bits (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305097). You can search RegCompactPhase2 in both versions cause it must be somewhere.

redseujac

I had searched in the appropriate keys "Run" and "RunOnce", but I couldn't find it anywhere in Windows 8 64 bit system registry.

Besides, it's possible to search in both registry sections (64 & 32 bit) at the same time with jv16 PowerTools Registry Search tool.

That's why I advice Win8 64 bit users not to use the tool until jv16 PowerTools 2013 has been tested with Windows 8.

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