Main Window Setting

boofo

I have to agree with Roxie2401 on this one. An option would be nice and fill out the main screen a tad better.

roxie

I hesitate to bring this back to the top of the message list, but its been a few weeks and my personal experience with version 2009 is that I can't count the number of times I've opened the wrong "category" looking for the tool I want to use. It finally got to the point where I made a written "cheat-sheet" listing where each tool was located.

I think putting the option back in the "Settings Tool" allowing all tools to be shown on one screen again is really the way to go.

I'm not sure, when looking at the Forum, how many users actually ask for the option to be removed (seems like there is a small number of repeat participants on the forum). But apparently someone did ask.

Looking back, displaying all the "Tools" on one screen has been with us for a very long time; even before Version 2006, 2007, 2008. So, why is was removed in 2009------?????

The product is all about the really great Registry Power "Tools" and having them all on one screen - well, it worked very well for a very long time.

Once again, I'm voting to please "put the option back."

Thanks

redseujac

For someone who uses the PowerTools since years, it's hardly believable :?

There are just 4 (four) catgeories explaining clearly their content: Registry, Files (and Directories), System and Privacy...

Is their content that difficult to remember? Well well : I'm rather curious to know which tool(s) you didn't find at once in the right category...

Please let's close this discussion. Only a couple of users asked for this till now (Roxie and Roxie2401 even being the same person?). All the others seem to be finding their way through the "labyrinth" of the Main Window

I'm voting contra: don't put the option back :

roxie

Ok, ALLANDG, ROBERTA, BOOFO, and me.

And yes, Roxie2401 and Roxie are the same - I had requested a password reset many days ago and go no response. When I sent a e-mail to the board administrator, the e-mail address (do-not-reply@macecraft.com) comes back as rejected. I was even told to open a trouble ticket - still waiting.

So, I created a new login to comment on two items - the Main Window Setting and the "Expand All" in the scan results (which, by the way, others had started the topics).

And, I also had pointed out that even though I had checked "Notify me when a reply is posted" - that was not working for my login either.

Maybe the forum just doesn't want my comments.

I'm guessing you are a beta tester and really, really like the new, cute GUI products, new, larger icons, with the speed meters, health meters, tools categories, etc..

Which tools I didn't find? Well, it is getting a little "interesting" to keep up with the product. For many versions we have a "Software Manager", now, its a "Software Uninstaller" - just an example. Things keep changing. 2006 had 23 tools, 2008 had 22, 2009 has 24.

If I were confident that the actual tools worked the same, I would still be using version 2008, maybe even 2006, which had a Cookie Manger - but we lost that one somewhere along the way, too. When I run a Registry Scan in 2009 I get some results. But if I immediately run the same scan with 2008, without having made any changes (with the Emphasize Safety, Emphasize Number of errors set the same) I get many more errors in the listing. Was the Registry Scan tool more robust in the prior version? Who knows.

Too many changes. This is way beyond me.

You've voted "no." Several have voted "yes." I really wonder how many users actually had that option set to show all tools on one screen? Didn't the original product have all the tools on one screen? You bet!

I'm sure the issue is just going to die - its just something we had for many, many versions and loosing it just made the program a bit cumbersome - so a few of us have commented.

leonardo

Compared to jvPT2008, the real difference (for me) in PT2009 is the ability to quickly view ALL 24 tools by rolling the middle button wheel on my optical mouse. With this additional function I prefer the GUI/window setting of jvPT2009 over the option of having ALL icons in ONE window.

roxie

I fully agree - if you have a scroll wheel mouse.

Otherwise, well, all I'm asking is for the return of the user specified option to have them all on one screen again.

I know you can also go to the tools menu and open the drop-down and select, but again, why have to?

Scrolling or using the menu both add time vs. just pointing to one of the 24 tools and clicking.

I know I'll get blasted for this, but I keep being told "some have ask for this option to be removed." In the software development world, that's really unusual for users to ask for a removal - they usually are begging for features to be added, keeping the Developers quite busy adding things - not taking them away.

It was an option - we each could decide to turn it on or not.

If I'm debugging a system and running the tools repetitively, having to scroll (if I had that mouse) or selecting the category first, well, it just seemed cumbersome and unnecessary (since it was an option before).

I'm done. Its a simple request.

redseujac

Could we please close this discussion now? The developer will decide finally and I guess he has other important changes/fixes/improvements to do now. And NO the original product didn't have all the tools on one screen. The tools were just presented in categories like actually. That's the reason why the developer has returned to the good old categories main window of jv16 PowerTools v1.4. And yes many users had asked for that.

tullik

Namely:

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roxie

Ok, guys, yes, I still have that version, too. We've come a long way since then. But lets look at the last three versions.

Apparently the developer (is it still jv, or has it been outsourced to "developers?") decided that to have them all on one screen WAS a good idea. He kept it there for versions 2006, 2007 and 2008.

Why the heck did it go away if it WAS a good idea? Or was it a BAD idea that we got so used to for three versions?

You are seriously asking me to believe that users ASK to have this option removed?

Close the discussion.............. I'm still betting the program code from 2008 is still available and could be reinstituted very, very easily making it a user OPTION.

With all the very valid suggestions, you keep making my point for me: If the tools were available on one screen again (via a user option), (1) you wouldn't have to open a Tools menu and select, (2) you wouldn't have to choose a category and select, (3) you wouldn't have to scroll a mouse wheel and select, etc. All your suggestions are valid, but not necessary if we were back to the single screen, as in versions 2006, 2007, 2008. You would just open the program and,..... well, you know, do what we have been able to do for the past three versions.

Anything that is good and valid is worth discussing.

redseujac

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roxie

Yes, I made a mistake - but, every post has discussed specifically (and I've carefully listed) 2006, 2007,2008, 2009.

I made a mistake referencing "original" - of course the "original" did have a Preferences screen that the user could set additional items/actions would appear in the various tools. (Its been a long time, so I may not remember that correctly, either.) No, not 1.4.1, tullik, version 1.3, back when it was jv and not Macecraft. Guess it depends on what "original" means???

I was drawing a parallel with the user having the ability to specify Preferences in the Tools then, with what appears on the screen now via a Setting Option.

Even in the 2008 version the user had the option to still use the PT2007 interface, in addition to the "All at once" or the "category."

You are seriously asking me to believe that users ASK to have this option removed?

I'm totally done - it is interesting to note that besides pointing out my mistake, you didn't comment on helping me make my point with all your suggestions ----

And, apparently it WAS a good idea for 2006, 2007, 2008. At least "jv" must have thought so.

I closed this discussion a long time ago, several times. (And, can we please stop with all the little smily faces? Its closed, leave it alone.)

redseujac

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ggt

I for one mainly only use 2 Tools

Start Up Manager

Registry Cleaner

Registry Finder (ocassionally)

I prefer the All Tools Main Window Setting

Better still, a way to display the Tools I commonly use.

redseujac

I thought this question was closed :

The developer will decide we said, so let it go...

(PS: nobody else but 3 or 4 people asked for this :? )

rdtmk5

Yes, please let this one go. Jouni sees everything on the forum.

roxie

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redseujac

Ok, we'll let you the last word, if not it will never end. As I said the developer will decide, period.

One thing's for sure: the developer has changed the whole thing because a lot of users had asked for it. It was changed because it was not good in the opinion of those users, who wanted a division into categories. I understand you can't know maybe because you were not at the forum at the time (joined March 2009)?

roxie

redseujac wrote
Ok, we'll let you the last word, if not it will never end. As I said the developer will decide, period.

One thing's for sure: the developer has changed the whole thing because a lot of users had asked for it. It was changed because it was not good in the opinion of those users, who wanted a division into categories. I understand you can't know maybe because you were not at the forum at the time (joined March 2009)?

We certainly are not going to agree but I am just a little confused. You said "users wanted a division into categories." Didn't the Developer satisfy that request in PT2008?

From what I can tell, PT2008 introduced the tool grouping by "categories" AND it had "show all at once." So, it looks like the categories were introduced in the 2008 product - the users who wanted a division into categories got what they wanted in PT2008 ----and we also had the "all at once" screen (plus the PT2007 interface, if desired). That should have satisfied those who wanted "a division into categories" and those who were used to the product as it was in PT2007, "show all tools at once."

All we are asking is to have it back that way - "division of categories" AND "all tools" as in PT2008 (or as "ggt" suggested, possibly a user defined screen).

From what you have shared with us, it seems like a reasonable request. And, I've tried to present the request as logically as I possibly could.

I'm not trying to drag this out and I thank you for clarifying a misunderstanding --- that users really didn't ask to have the "show all tools at once" removed; rather they ask for a "grouping by category" option, --- possibly in addition to "all at once." For new users, "categories" certainly would have its benefits; for users of specific tools, what "allandg", "ggt" and others have suggested also seems reasonable. And for many of us, has worked very well.

Let's see where the Developer takes us. Hopefully, he will think it a reasonable request as well.

PS: When I actually joined the forum as a "poster" shouldn't be important. I've been keeping up with the discussions and product development for a long time. This was the first time I felt it was important to add my comments to the topic started by "allandg."

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