Safety of reg cleaning (Was: Do I need to make backup when)

joe

Hi Guys,

I never use automatic registry backup, because I think if I can't trust this to automatically do it then I should not be using this software in the first place. I mean I woudl expect JVC to be 100% safe and idiot proof that is the point to me of having a automatic system otherwise if it was not automatic there would be no need to buy special software.

So therefore is it doing any harm by not creating a backup and what are the risks?

Thanks in advance

blackdex

I think PT2k5 is very safe.

But, it could be that some software could cause problems after cleaning the registry, this becouse some entries could be marked as unneeded or wrong etc.. But that software could need it to work properly.

Creating backups is just a safty precoution.

You can always remove the backups if you are sure nothing is wrong.

jv16

No product is idiot proof, ever. One could choke to a lollipop or put a finger inside one's computer and get electrocuted.

I can't see any negative sides in letting jv16 PowerTools to automatically create backups of the items it removes.

joe

Thankyou for your replies.

So then what are the chances that I have caused a problem by not backing up the registry. I have used JV16 (latest trial edition) for the first time and did not back it up.

I did an automatic removal of the unused registry items, so now that I didn't keep a backup, is this perhaps going to cause a problem in the future?

How do I know if it has removed anything it shouldn't have done?

Best Rgds

Joe

joe

Hello

I would like to know what is the point of having a "backup" if the JV16 product is perfectly safe to use?

Can the manufacturers guarantee 100% that its product will not damage my system by letting it automatically fix the registry errors that this software claims to find on my computer.

Therefore I do not need to use the backup facility if this is the case.

blackdex

No Registry cleaner in the world can say they are 100% safe. This becouse there will come new programs wich can add strange entries in the registry, which could be seen as faulty entries but they arnt.

I personaly think that PowerTools is the most safest Registry Cleaner.

I create backup's automaticly and once in a while i remove those backups.

It is better to be safe then sorry.

So i sugest to let the backups be created automaticly and remove then once in a while.

joe

Many thanks for your kind reply. I am a power user, and I like things to work and I like to use tools that I can feel sure about.

These doubts in my mind have arrisen due to the many experts on the Microsoft Windows XP forum who are so called MVP's (some kind of microsoft approved expert) saying that many times they have seen damage done by registry tools.

However, the opposite side of the coin is that the manufacturers of these claim that they can help prevent problems arrising. So hence I wanted to know the purpose of backups, and again, how would an average Joe like me know when or if it was safe to delete the backup........

Again if we have to be so technically adjusted as to be able to tell if it deleted something important then what is the point of having automatic software in the first place?

I mean it defeats the entire object. Or is it the case that allways without exception if there is something wrong caused by the automatic removal of something by a registry cleaning tool that it will allways be obvious to us.

Therein lies the problem. How can we use these with certainty. I want a tool that I know will be 100% safe to use, otherwise what is the point to use it?

So in summary are you saying that no registry cleaner can guarantee that it wont' delete something important, and we just have to take our luck with it?

This is exactly what the experts say, they say that it can cause damage, but they say that the benefit is negligible compared to the risk of damage caused by the general "registry cleaning tools".

Again the main question is how would I know if the tool had automatically deleted something that is useful? Many times these things are not obvious it seems.

Rgds

joe

Ok let me ask another more focused question that is of more concern.

Can the makers of JV16 guarantee 100% that the automatic removal system will never damage any part of the windows xp operating system.

That is my main concern, software if it does not work due to some error, then it can easily be reinstalled. The main concern I and other power users have is that the main mother ship is not damaged eg. the operating system.

This is exactly what the MVP's (microsoft experts) on the official microsoft windows xp website say. This is the kind of reassurance I am looking for.

Can some of the manufacturers come here and say in all their tests they've never seen JV16 do any damage to any windows xp installation and that they have never recieved genuine complaints about this.

This totally will reassure me, I dont mind about any other software, as you say, this can happen due to obscure software that is not widely known about or may have some strange unrecognized entry.

jv16

Joe wrote

Can the makers of JV16 guarantee 100% that the automatic removal system will never damage any part of the windows xp operating system.

No product, whether it is a car, a washing machine or a computer software can ever be 100% safe. That applies to jv16 PowerTools, to RegSupreme and to all competitive product.

On the other hand, we do have a 30 day refund policy. If you are not happy with our products, let us know within 30 days and we will send you your money back. Most companies can't even offer that.

Since all products have problems and faults, I would recommend everyone to compare companies on how they react to the detected problems. I.e. do they try to cover it up or fix the problem as soon as possible?

Joe wrote

This is exactly what the MVP's (microsoft experts) on the official microsoft windows xp website say. This is the kind of reassurance I am looking for.

I do share his opinion. Ever since the marketing men found spyware and the other ware's the markets have been flooded with zero-quality products.

Unfortuanately some are also trying to make money with the hype and making low-quality registry cleaners. Just type "free registry scan" to a search engine and you'll see what I mean. Not that all of them are low-quality, of course.

We get e-mail about these products all the time, people who have spent $30-$40 to a registry cleaner that doesn't really do anything. Bells and whistles but no real results. The reason they send their comments to us is because they have then tried our products and seen the difference.

Joe wrote

Can some of the manufacturers come here and say in all their tests they've never seen JV16 do any damage to any windows xp installation and that they have never recieved genuine complaints about this.

I can't remember any case in which running our products' registry cleaner would have caused any serious damage.

Some users have had to re-install Windows but in 99% of these cases the problem would have been fixed by simply restoring the backup the product created.

I would like to highlight that the vast majority of all comments and feedback we get is positive or constructive criticism. It's very rare to hear who wouldn't like our products or who have had problems with our products.

joe

Hello

Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply to this thread. It is people like me who get confused by the differing opinions that are around.

This is the kind of debate that experts cannot agree on. Everything you sais makes alot of sense and leaves me feeling I have got an expert and honest opinion, so that I am free to make an informed decision.

Thanks once again and I hope this thread serves as a reassurance for anybody else who has been confused by contradicting things they have read during their research.

Kind Rgds

Joe

carpio

My PC Start to show a error and a litle slow resourses exactly after a clean of the registry i think is a services error. still usable my pc but i don´t like the errors on startup, svhost or something. The bad thing is i turned off the backups.

Thanks

pluizebol

I fully agree with Joe - never use a registry-tool that is not certified bullet-proof.

And if I will use one some day, it will be one with a nicer user-interface.

doogie

I fully agree with Joe - never use a registry-tool that is not certified bullet-proof.

And if I will use one some day, it will be one with a nicer user-interface.

As JV16 and BlackDex have said above, no registry cleaner is 100% safe nor ever will be. I've used JV16 apps for years now with good results. You just have to use a little common sense and always create a backup. If you find a programme that doesn't function after using PowerTools then merge the backup into the registry, add the non functioning programme's name to the ignore list and inform JV16 of the problem. Believe me he is a friendly guy and an excellent coder. Always striving to improve his product.

As I see it this forum is here as a helpline for people to discuss any problems they have with JV16's programmes not as a place to flame the developer.