2006 is really ready?

mrainey

I'm a long-time user, including many of the free versions, 1.4, and 2005. The programs have been extremely useful to me.

V2005 initially had a lot of bugs and caused me some problems. As time went by, a number of revisions came out and fixed most things. I still don't trust aggressive mode but that's ok, I can live without it.

Question - is 2006 something I can depend on if I use common sense, or should I wait a few weeks to let some more kinks be ironed out?

tullik

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mrainey

Thank you. I'm going ahead with 2006.

tullik

mrainey wrote
Thank you. I'm going ahead with 2006.

Good luck.

Be forewarned -- if your registry triggers this bug: http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4365#4365 -- you won't be able to use the 2006 Registry Cleaner. Read the whole topic ...

Here's a summary of 2006 bugs I am tracking: http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4341#4341

jv16

To be sure, you can install the jv16 PowerTools 2006 to another directory. This way you could use both PT 2005 and PT 2006.

lashiec

As long as you're not using Win9x, everything is fine. Under Win98, there are still some especific bugs that need to be ironed, although the program as now is more stable than a rock, thanks in part to the new buffering component. You can call it truly "advanced" :)

sinistra

jv 16 installs ok on win98se over my old version of 2005. The GUI comes (slowly like 2005) up I can see it is registered to me in the new version however it is only an image and not a useable GUI.

The GUI window cannot even be moved with the mouse (click and hold on the window bar) CTRL+ALT+DEL shows it is loaded and 'running' i.e. not waiting or unresponsive etc. so..what next?

I can start the program wait a couple of minutes and the GUI will appear, that's all..I can manipulate the GUI to iconized mode from the tool bar or I can close it from there, but she is in another dimension.

I use a firewall, 'outpost' but I have included jv16 in the trusted apps.

Any idea what to do next other than going back to 2005?

Thanks,

lashiec

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layman

I've just downloaded vn 2006 and taken a quick look. Dumped it. It's not ready for prime time, and the reasons are familiar. I have always liked the basic idea behind this suite of tools, but it has always lacked professional polish. It was one thing when it was just a young amateur producing shareware, and another thing when the developer is older and the product has gone commercial. It's not that you'd expect the software to be entirely free of defects, but even basic quality control procedures should be catching the kinds of bugs that you're releasing to the field. A case in point is that the aging/comment feature has been screwed up in every early release I've ever evaluated. This time, it fails on filetypes. I'm a paid licensee, but I won't be converting to the current release.

While I'm griping about the bug in the aging/comment feature, let me say that the feature is great in concept, and one of the main reasons I finally ponied up for a license after years of taking a pass. Trouble is, the feature is deficient because it's insensitive to deletions. It's a case of lame design. It should be a fairly simple matter to correct this deficiency, but it persists release after release. There's just one word for this, and the word is amateurish. I'm not trying to be cutting here, I'm just being blunt about the shortcomings of your product and your process.

jepe

Denigrating a great tools-suite like PT 2006 - re-written in many of his features - for such a minor "bug" is really not great but greatly unfair.

Well! Anyway, your clearly in the minority with your meaning.

Jean-Paul

P.s.: On every forum there are some rules, you just should read them before your next post.

tullik

layman wrote
... I'm a paid licensee, but I won't be converting to the current release. ...

There are other opinions -- look here: http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1020

layman wrote
... While I'm griping about the bug in the aging/comment feature, let me say that the feature is great in concept, and one of the main reasons I finally ponied up for a license after years of taking a pass. Trouble is, the feature is deficient because it's insensitive to deletions. It's a case of lame design. It should be a fairly simple matter to correct this deficiency, but it persists release after release. ...

Lame design? Maybe a little. Chaos in what software makers put in the registry? Certainly. There are no enforced standards.

layman wrote
... There's just one word for this, and the word is amateurish. ...

Wrong! The correct word is "risk-taker."

sinistra

What antivirus are you using (if you are using one of course )? Some antivirus doesn't like the UPX compression of PowerTools and causes problems with it (old versions of Panda coming to mind). Do you have another security program like an IDS (PrevX, WinPatrol...) or spyware protection in real-time or something on the same lines?

I use NOD32 for AV..that's all in the way of 'security' that and the firewall. I don't use the C: Drive for anything except windows, I use the 'D' drive for applications everything goes there. C: drive is kept pretty small under 800MB.

I could try a new directory in D: however I don't see that would matter as version 2005 did OK in it's present directory on D: and I just installed over that.

Must be something else..a weirdness one comes to expect these days.

I'll probably wait for the next build and see if the problem is fixed.

There's always the clearout and re-install then if that fails reinstalling the 2005 version for now..by the way, where can you get a copy of the old 2005?

tullik

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lashiec

Sinistra wrote

I use NOD32 for AV..that's all in the way of 'security' that and the firewall. I don't use the C: Drive for anything except windows, I use the 'D' drive for applications everything goes there. C: drive is kept pretty small under 800MB.

Uhmm, there's was this other guy having problems with PowerTools and NOD32, although it was with 2005 version. Here's the link to the post:

http://www.macecraft.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=849&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=nod32

Try adding the whole PowerTools folder to the excluded list of NOD32, if it doesn't work this way either, try contacting ESET support to see if there's some problem with the antivirus dealing with PowerTools, because it seems a problem of the scanning engine. You could also try to end the processes running the firewall and the antivirus, and launching PowerTools to see if you keep having the same problems.

jv16

layman wrote
It's not that you'd expect the software to be entirely free of defects, but even basic quality control procedures should be catching the kinds of bugs that you're releasing to the field. A case in point is that the aging/comment feature has been screwed up in every early release I've ever evaluated. This time, it fails on filetypes.

What exactly doesn't work?